Baphomets Fluch 2.5

by **spigian** » 1. December 2005, 19:36

Guys you are doing an excellent work.Although there were no cutscenes in the intro it is absolutely great and the music is fantastic!Very atmospheric!Can I ask you something?Will you do a complete English version?I mean with english voice too?It would be a shame that this game would be only in german,I mean it would loose a lot of it's atmosphere.And the english name is broken sword.Thank you for all your effords and I can not wait for the release of the game!

by **Tooms** » 1. December 2005, 20:00

Hello spigian,

Thank you for your compliments!

Well, we produce a full german version of Broken Sword 2.5. All other languages are planned to be subtitled only. Maybe there will be a version with english voices after the release. But I don't want to raise hope.

by **spigian** » 2. December 2005, 01:54

Thank you Tooms for everything. I do not want to push you or anything, but I just think that many people (actually all the non-german speaking) would really appreciate it. You could easily find english speakers actors if you asked it and I am sure that the game would be even more atmospheric for the rest of us. And one more irrelevant question.Is there any chance to see this game in the same pack with Broken Sword 4?Have you talked about something like this with Revolution?For them it would cost nothing and it would be a great marketing move.

by **Tooms** » 2. December 2005, 14:07

Indeed we've contacted Revolution Software to get our game into the box of BS3... Well BS3 was already released without us. ;-) Maybe there is a chance for BS2.5 to be sold together with BS4. BUT: We don't know the release of BS4 nor BS2.5, so it's only speculative.

by **spigian** » 2. December 2005, 17:27

That would be absolutely great!I hope that you will make it on time!!!Keep up the excellent work that you do!

by **dikkeduif** » 10. December 2005, 17:21

First of all great job with the game

I agree with spigian. George is an american guy, i think it's a flaw to let him speak german.
There are a lot of fans out there who are willing to do these voices.

Well that's just my opinion. The screenshots look great and the music is fantastic.

> edit
Here's your first voice actor ;)
http://www.baphometsfluch25.de/cms/scripts/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1599

by **Social** » 11. December 2005, 21:08

wasn't there a plan to let the original guy who does the george voice do the voices?

I mean, if you release this game in german firsy, people won't give it any attention. There's a reason why everything on the net is released in English first if possible...

The great thing about Broken Sword lies in the excellent voice of George, especially the way he makes remarks to his surroundings. Releasing this in german would slaughter much that makes the game great.

by **Der Geist aus der U-Bahn** » 11. December 2005, 21:22

I can´t hear it anymore..."make it english make it english..." ! If this team would come from an english speaking country I bet they would have done that...but apparently they are all german speaking so why the hell shouldn´t they make the game in german?? Be happy that they plan to subtitle it in many languages, otherwise go and look for a team who will produce an english version of their own. Synchronisation, especially professional for a fan-made game is rare, if not unique. So STFU with all these attacks against the game being released in german.

BTW: has anyone of you ever heard the german version of Georgies voice? In the whole game? What makes you think that George not speaking with his english voice would "slaughter much that makes the game great"??

by **Chris** » 12. December 2005, 00:04

We, the German fans, also think that George's voice was very important to the atmosphere of the game. But it's his German voice to us. Had we played the game in English it would be the English voice. It's a question of good old memories.

by **spigian** » 13. December 2005, 00:33

First of all, Der Geist aus der U-Bahn I never offended you in any way. Since the team members do not have any problem talking about this matter and they do not say that they will not do it then I think it is none of your business to speak like this about it.Second of all, I never obliged the team to do it, I just made a request. Thirdly, if you would like to think about the others too, I think that everyone who has a computer is able to speak english, even you, a German.This is not the case for the german language though. Last but not least, the team is kind enough to produce this game for everyone's sake (forgive me if a make a mistake) and if you come to think about it, it would be better if they made a full english release of the game. I have nothing against german language but if you are interested for the rest of the world, german are spoken by 60 million people, while english are spoken at least by 2 billion. Anyway, I do not think that your post was appropriate for anyone in this forum (STFU???).I do not know you but at least I respect you.

by **Der Geist aus der U-Bahn** » 13. December 2005, 02:19

Did I mention you in particular offend me in my post? I just can´t read anymore of complaints of that kind on this board. And sure it´s my business to utter my opinion about this subject. You come up with numbers? Then they should release the game in chinese first... :roll:
Is it so hard to accept the fact that a german team is doing a german version? Nothing against multiple language versions of games but HEY we talk about a non-profit fan-made one here! And this means limits...even professional games are published in countries with subtitles only.

P.S.: German is spoken by about 100 million people. :wink:

by **spigian** » 13. December 2005, 02:50

I think you miss the essence of my words! I do not have any problem with the game being in German.I just wish to see it (if possible) in a complete english version. I think the team is making a game for everyone who likes Broken Sword and adventures. What I wish does not mean that it will be done.But telling me to STFU is unacceptable first of all because I have the right to state my opinion and second of all from the moment that Tooms replies to me in a way that he shows that he does not have any problem and you are NOT a team member then I can not understand why you had to comment it in this way. Anyway,I think there is no point in arguing with you because there is no need to convince you for anything.

by **Chris** » 13. December 2005, 11:00

I, as a German and a European, would also love to see an English release. Not instead of but additionally to the German localisation. To us German fans George's German voice is essential for the atmosphere of the game because it's what we are used to since the game was released back in 1996. And I think every1 here understands that the non-German fans are eager to have an English version of the game. But you have to understand that this would mean a big lot of additional work for the team. Although the staff never said they would not do an English version ever. They just concentrate on the German for the first release and maybe later there will be an English version if there are contacts to good English voice actors. Maybe the English version will even be made by other English fans, who knows?
Just accept that for now the game is developed in German.
But I hope that the team will make an English version if they get enough help from English fans to get the necessary contacts.

And you have to see that the team of course is making the game THEY would like to play. And since the team is German that would be a German game, which tells you where the priorities lie.

by **Monjon** » 13. December 2005, 18:43

The Geist aus der U-Bahn is right.
The team is out of germany so there will be first a german version,clear?
Is it so hard to understand?
And as a matter of fact they have said that they will subtitle it.
So I´m agree with the Geist aus der U-Bahn...
STFU!

by **spigian** » 13. December 2005, 19:02

I never said that the game should not come out in german.I never said that the first version should not be completely in german.I just asked if an english version would be possible.I do not know why you react like this. I never insulted you or anyone in this forum but it is offensive to tell to somenone SFTU when he is not even talking to you.Not even now that you insult me in such a manner.The team does not have a problem,why should you?I think is really pointless speaking about something that you are not the responsible person.

by **Tooms** » 13. December 2005, 20:01

Our programmers are really ingeniously guys. They planned "Broken Sword 2.5" to be a modular game. That means: Subtitles can be edited in every text editor into the language of your choice! That also means, all spoken words can be substituted, too. I would like to quote Chris as he said: "Maybe the English version will even be made by other English fans, who knows?" That's exactly our intention behind the modular architecture of the game engine. Our hope is that many people around the world will do a complete localisation of Broken Sword 2.5... at least, it is possible.

by **spigian** » 13. December 2005, 20:08

Thank you Tooms once again. I did not intend to start a conflict with my topic, I just made request. And as I said, only an english version other than german would be enough.Keep up the good work.

by **Der Geist aus der U-Bahn** » 13. December 2005, 21:54

Spigian, again, I never mentioned you in person. But if you look around all the different threads here and at the News section you´ll find the request and mostly the demand for an english language version many many times...too many times for my taste. My post was against this in general, but especially against dikkeduif and Social who argued with the game being slaughtered by the german release first...come on guys, what´s your proof? I would have nothing against an english version, or a french one, or russian or whatever-but I still can understand that a german team will stick to a german language version first as it´s most certainly the easiest one to do for them.

by **spigian** » 14. December 2005, 12:40

Thank you for your explanations Der Geist aus der U-Bahn. I totally agree with you that the game should be done in complete german version. In fact this is what the team is doing all these years. I just expressed that also a complete english version should be very good for the non-german speaking adventurers. I was implying only two versions. No matter, what I am sure that we will all enjoy this fabulous game and we will share our thrill in this forum. Broken Sword 2.5 is close from what I understood.

by **Guest** » 14. December 2005, 21:49

Americans only can speak english , british people only english too... while germans must be able to speak at least two languages , a bit ignorant isnt it? Some european countries have to watch movies with english voices and subtitles of their mother languages because they were not synchrosised...

and now americans come over here to flame around because this is the first game which is not completely synchrosised in english... we germans have to play a lot of games with english voices and german subtitles .... for example final fantasy 10 etc... and we dont have to complain about it.

so stop flaming around because this is the first game you see which is not synchrosised completely into english :roll: man this is so ignorant. this is a fan project its difficult enough to get all german voices.
And seriously .. the german voice of goerge is very atmospheric and much more characteristic than the english voice , just in my opinion :D. And this is not because its german , its just a better voice :)

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